Comments on: World of Warcraft: What Happened? http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/03/world-of-warcraft-what-happened/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=world-of-warcraft-what-happened Honest Gaming Journalism Thu, 23 May 2013 22:54:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Raphael M http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/03/world-of-warcraft-what-happened/#comment-59569 Raphael M Tue, 21 May 2013 13:20:27 +0000 http://www.gatheryourparty.com/?post_type=article&p=1150#comment-59569 So you are saying that blizzard made these changes to make the game more appealing to the newer players. But in my experience, i started playing WoW for a just a couple of months now, and i really wish they didn’t add any of these changes, the game is way too easy, its just a ton of content and cool places to go. And you find this awesome looking creature that seems very strong and hard to kill, but boom you one hit the creature. And i cant even skip to a higher level region because Im too low level

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By: Brunamete http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/03/world-of-warcraft-what-happened/#comment-57691 Brunamete Sat, 18 May 2013 19:46:50 +0000 http://www.gatheryourparty.com/?post_type=article&p=1150#comment-57691 My honest opinion is that it isn’t the fact that adding aspects like Looking for Group and Looking for Raid that killed the social aspect of this game. I think its more so that there is a appalling amount of elitist pricks in the game. The ones that don’t let anyone else learn anything and if your not a master at everything when you get there, lolurabaddielrn2playkidgtfo. Granted, yes you have the resources now to be able to research these things and get a basic understanding, but some people have to see it in action before they actually learn it.

I honestly think that the community itself is to blame for the social aspect of the game being dead. The game is so full of unfriendly people now you can’t contribute anything to a conversation without being criticized or having people just plain being dicks.

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By: john c http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/03/world-of-warcraft-what-happened/#comment-55196 john c Tue, 14 May 2013 22:05:35 +0000 http://www.gatheryourparty.com/?post_type=article&p=1150#comment-55196 wats the point in pugging trying to get geared up just wait till next expansion give u every thing without trying why i gave up y try just buy next expansion be like every one else wats point in putting in all hours for newbies buy next expansion be as geared as u no point wat so ever y i quit as TOOO EASY

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By: penis mcflurry http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/03/world-of-warcraft-what-happened/#comment-27175 penis mcflurry Sun, 17 Feb 2013 20:20:05 +0000 http://www.gatheryourparty.com/?post_type=article&p=1150#comment-27175 Derp derpity derp derp derp derp

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By: Otherland http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/03/world-of-warcraft-what-happened/#comment-23440 Otherland Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:34:18 +0000 http://www.gatheryourparty.com/?post_type=article&p=1150#comment-23440 This is a great post. I might even be willing to pay $25/per month just to have the first 2-3 years of WoW back. Sense of community and player accountability has been destroyed with all this cross-realm LF dungeon/raid/server crap. You now enter dungeons and you have idiots pulling whole instances and leaving group. Why even have servers? Each server used to have it’s own community…not anymore. Some servers were 99% asshole free. Not anymore.

There is no sense of accomplishment in WoW anymore. How can it be an accomplishment (achievement) when everyone can do it? Granted you have heroic kills and “pre-nerf” kills, but these just aren’t nearly as emotionally rewarding as they once were. It’s my understanding they’re removing rating requirements on PvP gear also. Yet another step in diminishing that sense of accomplishment.

You mentioned jealousy as being the spark that drove players to accomplish more. I completely agree. There are 2 types of players in this game: the player who is comfortable with the status quo (casual, nothing wrong with this), and the one who wants something more (dedicated raiders, strong pvpers, etc). I feel Blizzard has been very disloyal to its loyal player base. Those first 3 years are what got this game going…why change that formula? Blizz keeps trying to make everyone happy which is a big mistake.

Enforcing a strict “fuck you” policy on Blizzard’s part, ironically, would be great for the player base. It would preserve the values that made WoW great to begin. These values shouldn’t be whored out, but they are, and at a rapid rate, and the results of these actions are starting to hit them in their wallets.

To sum it up, the uniqueness of this game when it first came out is what made it so fantastically amazing. The uniqueness of each classes’ abilities/buffs added flavor to the game. Server communities were just that…communities. That’s all but gone and it’s a shame. Could go on about this for days, but I won’t. WoW just makes me scratch my head now.

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By: Trueshot http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/03/world-of-warcraft-what-happened/#comment-13018 Trueshot Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:09:55 +0000 http://www.gatheryourparty.com/?post_type=article&p=1150#comment-13018 Besides the content – the cross realm dungeons destroyed all sense of community. Of meeting people for a dungeon, then for some elite quests, then adding them as friends, knowing every guild on the server, knowing the best tanks. This is a huge loss. No amount of content can fix this. Blizzard should renounce cross realm dungeons (and instant dungeon teleport), and concentrate on fixing low pop servers (free transfer or merge).

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By: Nnoutaja http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/03/world-of-warcraft-what-happened/#comment-10983 Nnoutaja Mon, 22 Oct 2012 07:47:44 +0000 http://www.gatheryourparty.com/?post_type=article&p=1150#comment-10983 I’m a gamer who was playing a lot of WoW in my two year career, I started around middle of BC and only got to down one boss in BT and train on couple before the WotLK came, but I worked for it. I liked to put the effort to be the best or among them. It strove me to try harder, there was something to achieve in the game. I loved the attunements and all the quirky quests that you had to do, but they removed the necessity of the attuning. I played when having a title meant you had done something. The first title you could earn was with the attuning to the SSC, and I wore it and I was proud to have. It meant something. Granted I didn’t have alts waiting for the attunements to BT so I cannot say for sure would I have liked to run all those allts through the hoops. But for me there was something more in the game than just sit in LFG and afk in town. There were still places to explore and things to do. I downed the separate dragon boss in first WotLK patch on hard 25m and it was a challenge, but the reward was also there. The joy of accomplishing something difficult. Ulduar was the best place I have ever worked on, after that it was all down hill for me. LK was decent, but there was something missing. Was I getting bored of the game, or was the content just so simplified? I cannot say for sure, but the feeling was gone. WoW had shifted from the early skill based form to a all-around test who has the patience to repeat all the easy things time after time.

And I wasn’t in the 1%, I wasn’t even in the 5% but I dare say that I was among the 10%. There were places I couldn’t get into, but that told me I still had things to do in this game. I knew I probably would never get to see Sunwell, but I talked with my friend who did and I though. “Damn, that’s cool. Maybe someday I will be there too.” I’ve listened to things about the old 40mans and 5min blessings for the whole group, so there has been improvements, but Blizz just didn’t know when to stop. When a kids cries for candy, will he stop when you give it to him, or will he just ask more until his tummy hurts? I think the casual gamers are starting to get a tummy ache and leaving the game.

I’m an elitist, I freely admit. I liked knowing I was better than the newbs and noobs and in a way I think it is a mixed blessing for them. On one hand they looked up to us and though “damn, I’d like to have that armor/weapon/what ever” and on the other hand it must’ve frustrated them to know that they will probably never get it. So they raged and Blizz listened.

I agree it seems like a stupid thing to cater for the 1% of the players, yet it worked in the beginning. Would it work still? I don’t know. What I do know is that I don’t like the watered down WoW and I stopped playing. It wasn’t for me anymore. I have other games now. There seems to be plenty of players willing to pay for it still, so I guess it’s kinda working for them.

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By: Elementor http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/03/world-of-warcraft-what-happened/#comment-9874 Elementor Tue, 02 Oct 2012 07:40:53 +0000 http://www.gatheryourparty.com/?post_type=article&p=1150#comment-9874 You can be sure i’m not paying next month.

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By: Tecmessa http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/03/world-of-warcraft-what-happened/#comment-9374 Tecmessa Mon, 24 Sep 2012 00:43:07 +0000 http://www.gatheryourparty.com/?post_type=article&p=1150#comment-9374 I can see everyones point of view tsome extent,but I have to agree with the majority. WOW has become mind numbing. The game is still a little bit of an addiction or just a habit for me but the enjoyment is not the same.
I like a challenge, I like the use off crowd control and not running in and aoeing things. I like the fact that I might not get the gear I want tonight or this week. I like running instances and raids with people for both the social and fun elements. If it has those two elements then doing the same content a few to may times is not a hardship.
I am split on the lfr and lfd issue,theres is no way to do the content with out those features but at the same time we do loose the ability to play with ppl on our own realm and forge those friendships and contacts for future runs.

I like the fact when I did do the content I had a sence of accomplishment. But to be honest I can level a toon to 85 in a week and have it fully raid geared within 2 weeks. I can do this solo with the use of LFG with out a guild.
I imagine it is very hard to keep a game going for 7 years. I know you can not please all the people and some of the new content and ideas are great ones I just think they swung the pedulm a little to far to one side.

Maybe if they split the game to wow 1 and wow 2. Have one for the casual player who wants things given to them with very little effort or time due to RL and another one for the old players who still want a challenge and not have things repeatedly nerfed for the plyers that have the time and patience to try things and work with others to achieve the goal.

I apologize for my spelling and lack of correct sentences. But just wanted to vent and share my pint of view

If a patch or expantion comes out and a guild (no matter who they are)can beat end game content within a few days of said expantion/patch then things are to easy.

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By: Impactus http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/03/world-of-warcraft-what-happened/#comment-8693 Impactus Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:15:41 +0000 http://www.gatheryourparty.com/?post_type=article&p=1150#comment-8693 Great article, in my prime I raided during the wotlk days. When I came back during Cata’s release, so many things had been streamlined. Sure, it was way easier to do dungeons with the advent of the dungeon queue. But before, it gave you so much more enjoyment and satisfaction in being able to get your own group going, make your way to the dungeon entrance, and run it.

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By: Drek http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/03/world-of-warcraft-what-happened/#comment-8079 Drek Mon, 03 Sep 2012 13:58:33 +0000 http://www.gatheryourparty.com/?post_type=article&p=1150#comment-8079 You want to whine about whats wrong with wow you only have to wonder what genius decided to fall on his sword when conceiving the latest patch.
If they lost customers before I can only imagine how many they will lose when MoP comes out and it retains the current system they have decided to commit suicide with. Yes the talent tree was a little to much to navigate, get one point out of place and people would be casting you from the group in disgust for your low dps. But you basicly have what 7 options now to determine how your character will be and typically if you still dont get it right you will fail miserably. You still have to grind for gear which is what made your character truely powerful or not. I think if blizzard wanted to fix things they would look at that aspect of the game. I’ll take a last stab in the dark here and guess it was the same intellectual dwarf who thought up transmogrification that spear headed this patch?
I could go on with OP classes but typically if they abolished skills like the Dks lasso in Bgs then you would have countless masses who play DK’s whining about it. End of the day blizzard have to decide what makes a game truelly interesting.
I’ve always seen blizzard as greedy but never stupid but now sadly I’m seeing both.
I say release WoW 2 maybe a better graphics engine will help entice people back. Just don’t make it a guild wars 2 nice graphics new ideas, but talk about repetitive, and I thought wow was bad to grind. Not to mention failed healing system.

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By: madatom http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/03/world-of-warcraft-what-happened/#comment-6308 madatom Mon, 13 Aug 2012 22:56:35 +0000 http://www.gatheryourparty.com/?post_type=article&p=1150#comment-6308 should do an article on why pvp is in the crapper too

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By: Altaranalt http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/03/world-of-warcraft-what-happened/#comment-5163 Altaranalt Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:07:34 +0000 http://www.gatheryourparty.com/?post_type=article&p=1150#comment-5163 Loved the article. Will be sure to pass it along to my friends.

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By: Loz http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/03/world-of-warcraft-what-happened/#comment-4171 Loz Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:28:17 +0000 http://www.gatheryourparty.com/?post_type=article&p=1150#comment-4171 Excellent article…don’t worry about the fags that are screaming shit like “rose tinted glasses and special snowflake” just 12 year olds jumping on a lobotomy bandwagon. If Bobby Kotick could put wow into Facebook and Angry Birds he would, and half of these idiots would be licking his balls for it.

Wow died in 2008 RIP and it took the MMO genre with it.

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By: Atlas http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/03/world-of-warcraft-what-happened/#comment-3421 Atlas Wed, 04 Jul 2012 15:58:35 +0000 http://www.gatheryourparty.com/?post_type=article&p=1150#comment-3421 I quit WoW a long time ago, I hate how nobody socialises anymore and everybody is out to jew each other rather than have fun

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By: Flash cast http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/03/world-of-warcraft-what-happened/#comment-2997 Flash cast Mon, 02 Jul 2012 20:57:51 +0000 http://www.gatheryourparty.com/?post_type=article&p=1150#comment-2997 Do you work for blizzard? Everything this person has said is spot on, and yes it is drenched in humour. But doesn’t take anything away from the fact he’s talking sense…wow is now shit on a stick.
Give my regards to your employers from the cunts counts at blizzard.

No dis-respect

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By: Doctor Ynot http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/03/world-of-warcraft-what-happened/#comment-2933 Doctor Ynot Sun, 01 Jul 2012 13:58:45 +0000 http://www.gatheryourparty.com/?post_type=article&p=1150#comment-2933 Good point, retard! You sure showed him! The NERVE of having an opinion different from yours and voicing it!

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By: Parl http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/03/world-of-warcraft-what-happened/#comment-2850 Parl Fri, 29 Jun 2012 08:00:18 +0000 http://www.gatheryourparty.com/?post_type=article&p=1150#comment-2850 I miss the old wow. Flying mounts, dungeonfinders, meetingstones, crossrealm bgs, factionchanges made the game into what it is now. No reason to socialize and make friends, no reason to go out in the world, worst part is that every server has like 90/10 population so they cant even revive the game anymore. I still play the game casually, its still timeconsuming enough to be worth my money, but raiding 5 days in a row to get realmfirsts, no thanks. Got enough of that.

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By: Apologetic Ant http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/03/world-of-warcraft-what-happened/#comment-2817 Apologetic Ant Thu, 28 Jun 2012 08:51:27 +0000 http://www.gatheryourparty.com/?post_type=article&p=1150#comment-2817 Hey, if i pay you a monthly fee will you display my banner ad? Say $10-20/mo. Drop us an email, Cheers.

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By: Anonymous http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/03/world-of-warcraft-what-happened/#comment-2808 Anonymous Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:50:54 +0000 http://www.gatheryourparty.com/?post_type=article&p=1150#comment-2808 “D3… amazing game”

Opinion invalidated.

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